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The water path / Winter

Seasonal / the freeze

Ice, and the thing gutters get wrongly blamed for

St. Louis does not have a long deep freeze. It has something more awkward: repeated crossings of freezing point, sometimes several in a week, which is the condition that does the most damage.

A hard continuous freeze is in some ways easier on a building than what this region actually gets. Water that freezes once and stays frozen is inert. Water that freezes overnight, thaws in the afternoon sun on a south elevation, runs, and freezes again after dark, is doing work on your house every single cycle, and it does it dozens of times a winter.

Ice in the trough

Water sitting in a gutter freezes. If the run has correct fall and drains fully, there is very little water in it to freeze and this hardly matters. If the run has a low spot holding standing water, you now have a block of ice in the exact place where the metal was already stressed and the hangers were already carrying the most load. Ice expands as it forms and it does not care what is in the way.

This is why the sag conversation and the winter conversation are the same conversation. A gutter that drains cannot ice up badly. A gutter that ponds will. Pitch and sag is the page that matters here.

Icicles are information

An impressive row of icicles along a gutter looks like winter in a photograph and is actually a diagnostic reading. It means water is running off the roof and freezing at the edge, which means something warmer than freezing is melting snow up on the roof surface while the eave is cold. That is almost always heat getting into the attic, which means the story is insulation and ventilation, not gutter.

HANGERS CLOSE, PITCH HELD, RUN STAYS STRAIGHT HANGERS FAR APART: THE RUN FINDS ITS OWN LOW POINT STANDING WATER

Figure 3 · A gutter is a beam full of water. Spacing is not a detail: it decides whether the run holds the pitch it was hung with or slowly finds a low point of its own, which then holds water, grows a biofilm, freezes, and gets blamed on leaves.

Ice dams, and where the blame actually sits

An ice dam forms when snow on a warm upper roof melts, the meltwater runs down to the cold overhang, and refreezes there. The refrozen ridge then traps the next lot of meltwater behind it. That trapped water sits on shingles, and shingles are designed to shed running water, not to be a waterproof membrane holding a pond. Given long enough it finds a way under a course and into the house.

Now the important part, because this is where the trade routinely misleads people: the gutter does not cause the ice dam. The dam forms at the roof edge, and it would form on a house with no gutters at all. What the gutter does is give the ice somewhere to sit and grow, and then take the weight of it.

Which means two things follow. Ripping the gutters off will not stop ice dams. And blaming the gutter installer for an ice dam is usually blaming the wrong trade, because the cause is up in the attic: heat escaping into the roof space, uneven insulation, bypasses around lights and pipes, and ventilation that is not carrying that heat away.

Say the unflattering thing

No gutter product prevents ice dams

Not a bigger gutter, not a guard, not a particular colour of coil. Some guards make the edge situation slightly worse by giving ice more to grip. Heat cable can keep a channel open through a dam, and it is a genuine tool in specific situations, but it is a symptom manager that uses electricity all winter and it does nothing about the reason the roof is warm.

The real fix for ice dams is attic air sealing, insulation and ventilation. That is honest, it is unglamorous, and it is not a gutter sale.

What actually breaks in a St. Louis winter

  • Hangers and spikes. A trough full of ice is far heavier than a trough full of water, and it is a rigid mass that also gets shock loaded when snow slides off a steep plane above.
  • Seams on sectional gutter. Sealant is at its least forgiving when cold, and the joint is being flexed by thermal movement at the same time.
  • Downspouts. Water standing in the bottom elbow freezes solid, then the column above it has nowhere to go. Buckled downspouts after a cold snap are common and are the cheapest thing on this list to replace.
  • The outlet of a buried line. Shallowest point, most exposed to air, and often obscured by autumn leaves nobody cleared. Detail here.
  • Walkways. Discharge onto a path in December is an ice rink in January. This is a safety issue and it is fixed by moving the discharge, not by salting the same spot all winter.
Overhead view of a completed multi-tone architectural shingle roof, the hip cap running up the corner and the gutter visible along the far eave
Looking down a finished roof to the gutter at the far eave. That edge is the coldest part of the assembly, it is where meltwater arrives, and whether it can drain is a February question rather than a July one.

What to do before the first freeze

The single highest value job in the gutter year is clearing the runs after the leaves have finished falling and before the first hard freeze, because everything you leave in there is going to be frozen into a solid mass for the winter. Second is checking that each downspout runs clear all the way to its discharge point, which means putting a hose in the top and going to look at the bottom. Third is making sure winter discharge is not landing on anything anyone walks on.

None of that requires buying anything. The full calendar is here.

Next step

Have someone look at the run before you buy anything

If a gutter came down in a freeze, the interesting question is not the gutter, it is why the run was holding that much water in the first place. Keys Roofing does roofing, gutters and downspouts, and nothing else. Call (314) 220-2333 or use the callback form on the front page.

Ask about ice at the roof edge

Ice at the eave is usually a roof question

Gutters get blamed for ice dams and they are almost never the cause. What is worth looking at is the ventilation, the insulation line above the wall plate, and the condition of the eave itself.

Keys does roofing, gutters and downspouts, so you get one answer instead of two trades pointing at each other across your driveway.

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